Vice: So does it bother you when I introduce you to someone as my ex?
Ben Frey: Um, nope. There’s something almost nice about it. It’s like introducing your roommate as your roommate instead of as your friend. If you called me your friend, it would downplay our history.
Aw, that’s sweet. I always thought it bothered you.
Well, it sucks when you introduce me as your ex and then roll your eyes.
I’m glad we’re the type of exes who hang out cause we like each other, rather than hang out cause we have to carry on a certain ritual. Like watching the X Files every Sunday night together or whatever.
Have you done that before with an ex? I have.
I don’t think I ever had any rituals with my boyfriends. Or have I? Well, I guess boning is a ritual. Being friends with an ex seems like such a big deal. People are either all for it or all against it. Why do you think that is?
Why are we doing this interview again? I thought it was supposed to be about art.
Yeah, yeah, we’ll get to that. A lot of the guys I dated after you were really weirded that we’re friends. It’s annoying. How about the girls you’ve dated?
They probably thought it was a bit weird but they never really mentioned it.
Is it best to leave out the fact that we used to date? Some of the guys don’t get that we’re over, and we’re friends and I’m not into you, I’m into them.
You're not going to ask art-related questions, are you?
I think jealousy is all about having low self-esteem. What do you think?
Jealousy is all about wanting something someone else has, which means you’re not comfortable with yourself.
My dad says jealousy is like the flu. Once you feel it coming on, try to get rid of it because it’s useless. Not bad for someone who’s ESL.
Remember Taylor Saavy? He toured with Peaches. He was like a karaoke opener. He has a song called Jealousy. Oh man, I want to find that on YouTube.
If a girl you were dating told you she didn’t like you being friends with me, would you drop me? I wouldn’t put it past you.
No, of course not. But it would probably take some negotiating and explaining. There were these artists I read about, I think they're called Herakut, who are exes and still collaborate together. I think that’s really cool.
You’re trying to get back on the topic of art. I’m not done. Would you say we’re more like Elaine and Seinfeld or Betty and Archie, minus the on-going drama?
Elaine and Seinfield.
They probably had bad sex. What do you think?
I think I want to talk about my art, like you said we would.
ELIANNA LEV
Fuck, how I love ex boyfriends.
Posted by: Annabelle | 15/04/2009 at 22:50
this is how i felt in the time it took to read this- funny awkward funny more awkward but still funny.
Posted by: Anonymous | 15/04/2009 at 22:52
Oh, Ben Frey.
Posted by: Dugas | 16/04/2009 at 00:57
Lock her up!!!
Posted by: MF | 16/04/2009 at 01:55
Elly, your dad clearly knows what's up. I enjoy picturing your dad say that jealousy is like the flu and to get rid of it as soon as you feel it coming on. Even though I've never met your dad.
Posted by: Stacey Lynn Mitchell | 16/04/2009 at 01:55
Oh Elianna Lev.
Posted by: zut | 16/04/2009 at 04:00
Excellent... :)
Posted by: jenny charlesworth | 19/04/2009 at 18:51
"Ben Frey illustrates children’s books about bi-racial friendships. He’s also Sitka's resident artist"
Of course he would be. Multiculturalism is just Communist Internationalism dressed up in pussy liberal garb. Art now sucks and is just the aesthetic of the latter group.
Posted by: The Erotic Stasi | 20/04/2009 at 00:08
This is boring, narcissistic drivel.
Posted by: Putting the spotlight on crap journalism | 21/04/2009 at 03:46
Then why did you read the whole thing and feel compelled to comment about it?
Posted by: Putting the Spotlight on Bitter Writers | 21/04/2009 at 08:45
HEY!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!!
Posted by: putting the spotlight on myself | 21/04/2009 at 23:44
It was that bad; i couldn't contain myself.
Posted by: Pointless is what it is | 22/04/2009 at 01:03
i would think this is kind of like talking to elianna. "hey - got something amazing to tell you" and then she just turns it into being all about her. is this how every interview she does, going to turn out?
Posted by: not impressed, but we got to see a picture of ben frey. | 22/04/2009 at 17:59
I don't know her personally but so many other people i know say the same thing. Someone actually pointed this article out to me because it illustrated the point so well. Huh.
Posted by: Ben Frey is interesting looking | 23/04/2009 at 01:31
This hilarious article clearly wasn't marketed toward all you nay-sayers...well, good then!
Posted by: Stacey | 24/04/2009 at 19:08
You should also have a look at Ben's website ^^
Posted by: Maxime | 05/05/2009 at 03:16
Haaaaaaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha ! I love Vice, you guys rock my socks !
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